Doug's Revelation Chapter 18 comment on 9/08/2022, 5:10am...
Richard, Just a few thoughts on Rev. 17,18. The figures of speech in prophecy can be many with various interpretations. We tend to apply it to what we know and are familiar with. A whore or harlot in the scripture is one who has many lovers (sources of affection). Some of the wording in these chapters suggests it is a church that lost their first love "Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird". she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. The reason she could think she "is a queen" is she is married to the King. "I am no widow" is because he husband is "risen". "and shall see no sorrow" she can't lose her salvation. Notice that she has "become" the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. At one time she wasn't the habitation of devils etc. When I read Revelation I try to apply only what the Bible says about the different things. It seems to take on spiritual meaning and warning. Example: Rev. 8:10,11 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter. Possible meaning: star fell from heaven (minister of the word falls from truth) the 3rd part of the truth is altered (not all of it yet). The water (Word) becomes Wormwood (poisoned) and many men died (spiritually) because they were made bitter.
Richard H Priday's Revelation Chapter 18 comment on 9/07/2022, 6:21pm...
Revelation 18 commentary
There is still speculation as to whether this "queen" that made these boastings in verse 7 is a symbol of the Statue of Liberty and symbolizes America with its maritime trade; particularly focused on the financial markets of New York City. There are many clues in Jeremiah and many have written on this subject; nonetheless it is possible that a future city to be built in the Mideast may fulfill this prophecy.
We can certainly see the main theme here is that an economic system which the world will trade with in the last days will be destroyed at this point. The is fallen statement said twice in verse 2 (as I probably stated previously) would indicate the spiritual Babylon falling then the economic one; which makes this some point after the midpoint of the Tribulation. Verse 23 explains the merchants as being "great men of the earth" so that unbelievably it would seem that some are still living in luxury until very near the end of the Tribulation. The timing isn't exact here as chapter 17 and 18 are sort of a parenthesis between chapter 16 and chapter 19. It would have to be before the vial judgments as the whole world will be affected by that.
Also it would be very near the time when the kingdom is plunged into darkness (4th vial I believe). That could symbolize an electrical grid (or as I suspect a solar powered infrastructure regional breakdown so that trade no longer can occur). This judgment of God in "one hour" verse 19 could not only show swiftness; but possibly the brevity of time when this worldwide trade was at its peak.
The responsibility for the blood of prophets; saints and all those slain on earth is specific for that time; although certainly shows how a pattern of false worship has led to centuries of martyrdom for those seeking to keep their kingship; and economic power. Whatever false church (i.e. the great whore) that exists after the Rapture will resemble the Laodiceans today.
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Doug's Revelation Chapter 18 comment on 9/08/2022, 5:10am...
Richard, Just a few thoughts on Rev. 17,18. The figures of speech in prophecy can be many with various interpretations. We tend to apply it to what we know and are familiar with. A whore or harlot in the scripture is one who has many lovers (sources of affection). Some of the wording in these chapters suggests it is a church that lost their first love "Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird". she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. The reason she could think she "is a queen" is she is married to the King. "I am no widow" is because he husband is "risen". "and shall see no sorrow" she can't lose her salvation. Notice that she has "become" the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. At one time she wasn't the habitation of devils etc. When I read Revelation I try to apply only what the Bible says about the different things. It seems to take on spiritual meaning and warning. Example: Rev. 8:10,11 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter. Possible meaning: star fell from heaven (minister of the word falls from truth) the 3rd part of the truth is altered (not all of it yet). The water (Word) becomes Wormwood (poisoned) and many men died (spiritually) because they were made bitter.
Richard H Priday's Revelation Chapter 18 comment on 9/07/2022, 6:21pm...
Revelation 18 commentary
There is still speculation as to whether this "queen" that made these boastings in verse 7 is a symbol of the Statue of Liberty and symbolizes America with its maritime trade; particularly focused on the financial markets of New York City. There are many clues in Jeremiah and many have written on this subject; nonetheless it is possible that a future city to be built in the Mideast may fulfill this prophecy.
We can certainly see the main theme here is that an economic system which the world will trade with in the last days will be destroyed at this point. The is fallen statement said twice in verse 2 (as I probably stated previously) would indicate the spiritual Babylon falling then the economic one; which makes this some point after the midpoint of the Tribulation. Verse 23 explains the merchants as being "great men of the earth" so that unbelievably it would seem that some are still living in luxury until very near the end of the Tribulation. The timing isn't exact here as chapter 17 and 18 are sort of a parenthesis between chapter 16 and chapter 19. It would have to be before the vial judgments as the whole world will be affected by that.
Also it would be very near the time when the kingdom is plunged into darkness (4th vial I believe). That could symbolize an electrical grid (or as I suspect a solar powered infrastructure regional breakdown so that trade no longer can occur). This judgment of God in "one hour" verse 19 could not only show swiftness; but possibly the brevity of time when this worldwide trade was at its peak.
The responsibility for the blood of prophets; saints and all those slain on earth is specific for that time; although certainly shows how a pattern of false worship has led to centuries of martyrdom for those seeking to keep their kingship; and economic power. Whatever false church (i.e. the great whore) that exists after the Rapture will resemble the Laodiceans today.
RUN if truth isn't preached!
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