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Bob Hilt's Revelation Chapter 4 comment on 5/25/2020, 10:02pm...

Is Yeshua really Lucifer?

Jesus = Yeshua = Morning Star

The Complete Jewish Bible by "messianic believer" Dr David Stern writes: "Presenting the Word of God as a unified Jewish book, the Complete Jewish Bible (CJB) is a translation for Jews and non-Jews alike. It connects readers with the Jewishness of the Messiah. Names and key terms are returned to their original Hebrew and presented in easy-to-understand transliterations.

The CJB is a translation of the Bible into English by Dr. David H. Stern. It consists of Dr. Stern's revised translation of the Old Testament (Tanakh) plus his original Jewish New Testament (B'rit Hadashah) translation in one volume.

Jesus = Yeshua = Morning Star

In Isaiah 14 (REMOVED LUCIFER AND INSERTS MORNING STAR) Their argument is Lucifer is a "Latin" word that does not belong in English. About 20% of English comes from Latin. Does Taco not belong in English since it is Spanish?

Satanists and Luciferians know who Lucifer is. Read Carefully

Isaiah 14: (the fall of Lucifer)

11 Your pride has been brought down to Sh'ol (Hell)

with the music of your lyres,

under you a mattress of maggots,

over you a blanket of worms.'

(KJV uses Lucifer Stern inserts MORNING STAR who FELL from Heaven)

12 "How did you come to fall from the heavens,

MORNING STAR, son of the dawn?

How did you come to be cut to the ground,

conqueror of nations?

13 You thought to yourself, 'I will scale the heavens,

I will raise my throne above God's stars.

I will sit on the Mount of Assembly

far away in the north.

14 I will rise past the tops of the clouds,

I will make myself like the Most High.

who fell from heaven going to the pit of Hell? THE MORNING STAR is Jesus

Jesus = Yeshua = Morning Star

Who is the Morning Star? Stern says Jesus is Yeshua

Revelation 22: 16 "I, (Jesus) Yeshua, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the Messianic communities. I am the Root and Offspring of David, the bright MORNING STAR

Jesus is Yeshua the morning star


Chris's Revelation Chapter 4 comment on 5/25/2020, 7:44pm...

You're correct Bob. Yeshua is not the name used in the NT. Yet, my understanding is that amongst Messianic Jews, they use that Name, probably because of their roots rather than using the Greek, Iesous; Jesus in English.

I know that that Gentile believers working with Jews/Messianic Jews do use their terminology, probably more for identification & providing that the Name doesn't divert from its meaning & application. When working with Muslims, often we use their words for God, Jesus, Salvation, Sin, etc. so that they can understand what we are saying, but of course, often the way they understand these doctrines varies considerably to biblical meaning, so further explanation has to be given to bring them to Light.


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