Jesse's 1 Corinthians Chapter 12 comment about verse 7 on 6/27/2022, 2:58pm...
David,
I assume you are responding to something I posted a while back, so I'll respond. My focus will be on Hebrews 1:1-2, "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by His Son, whom He hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds;"
In the OT, God worked through progressive revelation. God manifested certain truths about Himself through certain stages of history, and through different people. And not just people, but different things, like the burning bush, or some of these other epiphanies where God revealed Himself through circumstances, and even animals, as far as that's concerned.
In Hebrews 1:1, the literal translation is not by the prophets, but in the prophets. The Greek text indicates that He wasn't just speaking through them. He was in the prophets. So He was in the prophets, speaking at various times, and in various ways, but has upon the last of the last days, spoken to us in Son. There is no word "his" in the original language.
What this is saying is that in the last days, the instrument that God uses is not the prophets, not various other ways like a burning bush, but He has upon the last segment of these last days spoken to us in a Son. So God has spoken to us. His last spokesperson, the last instrument that God used to minister to us, is His Son.
It's important to see the contrast between the superiority of Jesus Christ in comparison to the prophets. Those days are over. There are no more messages to various people.
Is it okay to prophecy today? I would say yes. But a NT prophet is someone who is a spokesperson for God, someone who takes the already written word of God and speaks His written word to others, nothing added to, or nothing taken away. There are no new prophecies today. God does not reveal "new prophecy" to anyone today. We already have the complete word of God and all prophecy has been given to us in His word.
David c kesler's 1 Corinthians Chapter 12 comment about verse 7 on 6/27/2022, 1:33pm...
Jesse - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 12
Craig,
Verse 27 literally tells us that we are the body of Christ, and members specifically, particularly, together. We're all individuals and we all make up the body of Christ. ....
....even those that prophesy...are part of the body...
Now as far as modern day prophets is concerned, there is no new prophecy. The bible is very clear that we are not to add or take away from the prophecy that is contained in the book. So if anyone comes along today claiming to be a prophet, right away a "red flag" should come up.
"WRONG".....In reply to this... I am a prophet... almost weekly ...i prophesy over people and see it come to fruition...
The nine gifts of the spirit are still in operation today...very much so... and your comment on adding to the book ... you better go back and read that again...
Deuteronomy 4 .1 Now therefore hearken, O Israel, ...... unto the statutes and unto the judgments,...... which I teach you, for to do them, that ye may live, and go in and possess the land which the LORD God of your fathers giveth you. 2.Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you. meaning the statutes and the judgments...
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man "shall add unto these things," God shall add unto him the plagues "that are written in this book:"
19 and if any man shall take away from the words "of the book of this prophecy", God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written " in this book" ......
THE BOOK OF "REVELATIONS" ... NOT THE WHOLE BIBLE...
Because the bible has been translated several times throughout history
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Jesse's 1 Corinthians Chapter 12 comment about verse 7 on 6/27/2022, 2:58pm...
David,
I assume you are responding to something I posted a while back, so I'll respond. My focus will be on Hebrews 1:1-2, "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by His Son, whom He hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds;"
In the OT, God worked through progressive revelation. God manifested certain truths about Himself through certain stages of history, and through different people. And not just people, but different things, like the burning bush, or some of these other epiphanies where God revealed Himself through circumstances, and even animals, as far as that's concerned.
In Hebrews 1:1, the literal translation is not by the prophets, but in the prophets. The Greek text indicates that He wasn't just speaking through them. He was in the prophets. So He was in the prophets, speaking at various times, and in various ways, but has upon the last of the last days, spoken to us in Son. There is no word "his" in the original language.
What this is saying is that in the last days, the instrument that God uses is not the prophets, not various other ways like a burning bush, but He has upon the last segment of these last days spoken to us in a Son. So God has spoken to us. His last spokesperson, the last instrument that God used to minister to us, is His Son.
It's important to see the contrast between the superiority of Jesus Christ in comparison to the prophets. Those days are over. There are no more messages to various people.
Is it okay to prophecy today? I would say yes. But a NT prophet is someone who is a spokesperson for God, someone who takes the already written word of God and speaks His written word to others, nothing added to, or nothing taken away. There are no new prophecies today. God does not reveal "new prophecy" to anyone today. We already have the complete word of God and all prophecy has been given to us in His word.
David c kesler's 1 Corinthians Chapter 12 comment about verse 7 on 6/27/2022, 1:33pm...
Jesse - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 12
Craig,
Verse 27 literally tells us that we are the body of Christ, and members specifically, particularly, together. We're all individuals and we all make up the body of Christ. ....
....even those that prophesy...are part of the body...
Now as far as modern day prophets is concerned, there is no new prophecy. The bible is very clear that we are not to add or take away from the prophecy that is contained in the book. So if anyone comes along today claiming to be a prophet, right away a "red flag" should come up.
"WRONG".....In reply to this... I am a prophet... almost weekly ...i prophesy over people and see it come to fruition...
The nine gifts of the spirit are still in operation today...very much so... and your comment on adding to the book ... you better go back and read that again...
Deuteronomy 4 .1 Now therefore hearken, O Israel, ...... unto the statutes and unto the judgments,...... which I teach you, for to do them, that ye may live, and go in and possess the land which the LORD God of your fathers giveth you. 2.Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you. meaning the statutes and the judgments...
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man "shall add unto these things," God shall add unto him the plagues "that are written in this book:"
19 and if any man shall take away from the words "of the book of this prophecy", God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written " in this book" ......
THE BOOK OF "REVELATIONS" ... NOT THE WHOLE BIBLE...
Because the bible has been translated several times throughout history
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