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Marke's John Chapter 6 comment about verse 53 on 5/07/2022, 3:49pm...

Reply to Adam.

1 John 3:9 tells us

2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. (We are the sons of God right now)

3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. (All true believers will purify themselves. Fake believers will not.)

4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. (Jesus takes away all sins of true believers, past, present, and future.)

6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. (Those who continue to abide in Jesus do not continue to live in sin.)

7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. (Sinners who live in sin are of the devil.)

8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. (True Christians cannot sin because their Godly nature is miraculously united as one with the Spirit of God who cannot sin.)

10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.


Jesse's John Chapter 6 comment about verse 53 on 5/07/2022, 3:32pm...


I agree with you and Mishael brings up a great point in that Judas was called the son of perdition. Son of perdition is a title, and in the Bible, that's only given to two people; Judas Iscariot and the antichrist that is yet to come. He's called the son of perdition, the son of destruction, which means this is who he was and has been his entire life.

Jesus said I have not lost one, except the son of perdition (Judas), and then the Greek text gives a (purpose clause/INA), in order that the scripture might be fulfilled. Jesus answered them, "have not I chosen you 12 and one of you is a devil," a demon.

Jesus didn't choose Judas to be a devil. He says one of you is already a devil. I'm choosing you as already being a devil. But it is interesting that Satan entered into him.

Now this whole concept of Judas Iscariot in God's plan helps us to understand how God works with people. Some people call it predestination.

Jesus did not predestine Judas to be evil. But Jesus had to choose an evil man to do the evil purpose which God planned. God already knows who is going to choose Christ and who is going to choose evil.

He already knows that. So if He is going to choose someone to be in amongst God's people to fulfill His Scripture in an evil way, He will pick out somebody who is already evil.

I don't believe Judas was ever saved. Judas was evil from the very beginning. Even though Judas was part of the fellowship for 3 years, he remained evil the entire time.

We know he was stealing money from the money bag. The Bible tells us that he was a thief. It would be hard for me to describe someone as evil as Judas as being a Christ follower. And yet, some choose to call him that, and some believe he was saved at one point.

To call Judas a Christ follower would be equivalent to saying that everyone who goes to church on a regular basis is a Christ follower and is saved. I wonder how many like Judas are in our fellowships today?


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