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Jesse's John Chapter 3 comment about verse 13 on 4/06/2021, 3:27pm...


I agree that the bible uses the word sleep or sleepeth as a term for death. It is the physical body that is put in the grave and the physical body lying there gives the appearance of a person sleeping. We know that Lazarus was dead for a few days and Jesus said he was sleeping. So yes, sleep does refer to death, physical death.

However, there is a living spirit/soul in everyone that departs the physical body upon death. The physical body goes into the grave but the soul departs immediately.

You mention that "The Bible clearly states that there will be those who are thrown into the Lake of Fire which is symbolic of total, complete, elimination, never to be seen again."

I say those who are cast into the Lake of Fire are those who were not part of the first resurrection. When you say elimination, do you mean the same as annihilation? My understanding is that those who are cast into the lake of fire will neither be eliminated nor annihilated, but will suffer for eternity.

I do believe that when a believer dies (Physical death) their soul immediately is in the presence of the Lord. You say that a person "does not go directly to Heaven or Hell, nor anywhere for that matter, but the grave? But then add that the grave is Hell." That sounds contradicting. If they don't go to Heaven or Hell, but you say the grave is Hell, where do they go?

Paul said to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Where's the Lord? Jesus dying on the cross told the man on the cross next to Him that today you will be with me in paradise. That man died. Where did he go? Paradise doesn't sound much like Hell to me.

Your advice on reading the Holy Bible is great advice. It's how we grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. As far as a 501C3 preacher goes, I do not know what that is? I do know that there are some great pastors/bible teachers out there. But, as the Bereans did, we are to search the scriptures to see if those things line up!


Carleton's John Chapter 3 comment about verse 13 on 4/06/2021, 2:10pm...

Not sure about Lazarus being dead nor the rich man nor Father Abraham in the story told by the Son of God. There was complete separation between Lazarus in the comfort of the bosom of Abraham and the rich man. We also know the rich man was of thirst and willing for any possible chance of recovery. If no recovery was possible at least a warning to his brethren who thought they understood their place in Abraham like he did when he was alive in the flesh. The gulf between the eternal blessing upon Lazarus and the eternal separation thereof of the rich man is the difference between heaven and hell. The body (flesh) of Jesus was crucified unto death for us if we can be that one whom the dogs licked the sores of by the gate.


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