“For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
King James Version (KJV)
Ron's comment on 2021-05-07 09:30:36:
Amen Jerry Smith, At the resurrection, our sleeping soul and body will awake and put on immortality and if we fear man instead of God and not be obedient to God, we will face the judgment and punishment of the second death the eternal death that was past to us from the first Adam, that will destroy the body and the soul.
What is our spirit? Some use the Bible verse Ecclesiastes 12:7 to support the belief of going to heaven when we die. Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. God gave us breath like in Genesis; God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life.
Without spirit, the body is dead. Psalm 104:29 Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled: thou takest away their breath, they die, and return to their dust. James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. Therefore, in the Bible, the word ruach is translated not only as "spirit" but also as "force," or life-force, breath is life.
Think of when you go in or out of a room you flip the light switch and the light goes on or off, the electricity is the spirit of the light bulb and without it the bulb is dead. There is also the Spirit we worship God, is it also similar to the electricity that turns on the light bulb?
Yes, it flows like electricity but it carries comfort, guidance, truth, love, it regenerates and renews and assists believers in prayer. Spirit, is the same word as breath, but what flows through this Holy Spirit is not air or electricity. It is an invisible channel and a door, we communicate to and from God in the name of Jesus, a dwelling place (mansion) in us, Jesus restored with his death on the cross.
God bless, Ron
Jerry smith's comment on 2021-05-06 22:16:22:
I think that too many try to define scripture by a word or passage that may or may not actually indecisively define the true context of what is written and or said,,, Jesus declared that He is the resurrection and the life,, that no man comes unto the Father Sept by Him,, AND IF YOU BELIEVE IN HIM ,,,THEN YOU WILL LIVE,,,. EVEN THO YOU DIE!!!!!
What does He mean,""" if we believe in Him"" ,,,and what does He mean""even tho we die,,,?? Many try to seperate"the person from the body here and say that only the body dies and the person is immortal,,even tho Jesus just said that """ (you)will live,,,""" even tho ""( you)""( will die"), is that contradictive to what He says in John 8:51, if anyone keeps my word, He will not see death,He will live forever ,,or in the passage just prior to when He says"" I am the resurrection and the life, the one that believes in me will live,,EVEN THO YOU DIE"" and the one that lives believing in me will not see death,nor ever die,
To twist a declaration of man being immortal in any sense by standing on these words is self serving to that person's doctrinal belief and not according to these passages,
The revealing understanding that the person is spoken of in the same state as the very one that dies being the very one that never dies is a clear reference to what happens to us in death, and those believing in him are resurrected to eternal life and in that state never die or see death ,,So,,,,,even tho we die,,,,(the person) not just a person's body as some declare allowing for a immortal soul conceptual belief,,but the person of ,, and once resurrected back to life,, will live eternally
This is proven by His resurrection to life being a bodily resurrection
The same body he died in now glorified and renewed free from any disease etc The spear in the side was of great significance, it allowed them to see that He was mortal as His brothern bleeding blood as they will,for theyhad to witness this lest any man believe ,
Chris's comment on 2021-01-07 16:48:06:
In Romans 11:25, we read, "For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in."
This verse, nor any other verse by inference, does not suggest that all people will be saved prior to Christ's coming, but that all who are 'appointed' (or, pre-destined, or better understood as, destined according to God's foreknowledge) by God to attain salvation (whether Jew or Gentile) will have come to salvation prior to the close of the age. So there will still be people that will turn to Christ for salvation after Jesus comes for His children who are saved now, but in that last day of the closure of all things, all who are appointed for salvation will be with Christ & God, & those who reject Him are consigned to an eternity of suffering & separation.
Virda Reid's comment on 2021-01-07 11:05:10:
What is said about cremation.
Bekki's comment on 2021-01-07 07:54:54:
Trying to find out if and where in the King James Bible it talks about when the last person is saved God will have Jesus return
Lisa Ferrell's comment on 2021-01-06 16:25:17:
I'm sorry for the slow reply. Thanks for your patience & gracious words earlier. I think you agree w/me insofar as whatever I've written that is Biblical, but God should get the credit.
What you ascribe to Lordship Salvation (LS) ("a correct understanding" of the Word) is what belongs to the true Gospel of grace, & what you describe is salvation (s) & discipleship (d) intermixed. LS teaches that d is part of & is basically proof of s. If so, then Paul would've not been saved (re. his flesh & sin in Rom. 7). We should want to obey God, but not one of us does this perfectly due to our flesh & the abuse of our free will.
Easy Believism is wrong, but so is LS. They are 2 faulty extremes of understanding the Gospel.
LSists at least imply that s is kept by good works. There tends to be a lot of double-talk. Beyond the links of my 1st msg., here I give 2 very condensed ex.'s.
"...[B]ut the keeping of the commandments is an instrument-a necessary instrument-through which the grace of God flows and keeps us in Christ, the principle of reward for us. Thus, we have to keep the commandments to be saved, but we understand it is only through grace that we can do so...St. Paul makes clear that if Christians allow themselves to be dominated by their 'flesh,' or lower nature, they will not make it to heaven...Here [re. Gal. 6:7] St. Paul teaches that through good works, or continuing to "sow to the Spirit," we will be rewarded with eternal life, but only if we persevere." - "Are Good Works Necessary for Salvation?" by Tim Staples (dated 4/30/15)
In "Faith, Works, and Regeneration, Paul Washer" (video-10/4/12 by "MrHarms" on YouTube), @ the 1:34-1:39 marks, Washer said, "If you don't have works, you're going to hell." Re. apple trees (at); I think that an at w/o fruit is still an at, for it has at DNA. See whole vids for context. (This 1 is an excerpt from "Paul Washer Evangelistic Message - DSFC 2012 (1-12-12)" (video-1/17/12 by "GraceBaptist1689").)
Hope this helps, & thanks!
Chris's comment on 2020-12-10 14:38:05:
I enjoyed reading your comments & response & do agree with what you've written. Though, I had to spend a little time considering your understanding of "Lordship Salvation". As much as I detest such categories, I realize that these terms are necessary for an understanding of a person's position without the need to detail all the beliefs that come under its umbrella.
After reading more about Lordship Salvation (LS), I actually seem to agree with it, when one considers its antithesis, "Easy Believism", which I certainly don't espouse to. You wrote that LS, as you've recently learned, is heresy. You also wrote about it: "Our attempts at obeying God don't save us from sin! Nor do they "keep" us saved or "maintain" our salvation. (& disobedience, after being saved, doesn't cause us to lose our salvation.)." Forgive my ignorance, but does LS actually infer that obedience to God saves us/keeps us saved from sin, likewise, disobedience causes loss of salvation?
I couldn't find the above claims by those proponents of LS, rather that it is a correct understanding of Scripture, to indicate that a person truly saved by the Blood of Christ & reborn, will in all seriousness & compulsion, want to live for the One Who purchased him & be His disciple in all areas of life. There will be times of falling into sin, not unrestrained sin of course, but the Spirit within will immediately impress conviction, with great spiritual discomfort & a requirement to seek forgiveness & change. If he should neglect this & continue to persist in disobedience, then his testimony before the Lord might seem hypocritical to us, but ultimately to be judged & dealt with by the Lord & not us.
So, what I'm saying, is that I agree with you, it's just that I'm unaware of LS propagating a teaching of 'salvation through Christ & the keeping of the Law'. Of course, I have other views of the application of the Law in the life of the believer in Christ: but that's another matter for another time. Blessings.
Lisa Ferrell's comment on 2020-12-10 06:43:40:
"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." - Romans 6:23
I hope I'm not misunderstanding you, & please forgive me if I am. But the Bible states otherwise than your overall message.
While it's true that many church institutions (& traditions) teach lies, & while it's true that nobody who lives in (I guess you mean habitual) sin is free from sin, not one of us is, has been, or ever will be able, in this life, to be free from sin by trying to obey all of God's laws.
It's impossible for us to do this perfectly, 100% of the time, & under or in any & all circumstances! That's why Jesus Christ did it for us instead, praise Him!
I once thought Lordship Salvation (which your message seems to espouse) was correct, but recently I (& others) have learned that it's a heresy.
Our attempts at obeying God don't save us from sin! Nor do they "keep" us saved or "maintain" our salvation. (& disobedience, after being saved, doesn't cause us to lose our salvation.)
Repentance is important in salvation & for sanctification, but repentance (or anyone/thing else, includ. the keeping of the Law) isn't the Savior, the Son of God is.
Jesus Christ is the only one who kept the Law perfectly & was, is, & will always be sinless; He is our perfect & complete sacrifice for our sins!
I pray that you & others would see this truth! It isn't right that anyone should be held in bondage to this legalistic, joy-destroying, Christ-depreciating false gospel.
More info. can be found in Dr. Gene Kim's Youtube videos:
"Can You Be Wicked and Still Saved? Shocking Answer - Dr. Gene Kim"
"WORRIED About Salvation When You Fail Works? (Eph. 2:9-10) | Dr. Gene Kim"
"If I Keep Sinning, Am I Still Saved? ABSOLUTELY! (Eph. 1:5-6) | Dr. Gene Kim"
& also just search for:
"Dr. John R. Rice's Rebuttal Of Lordship Salvation"
(As found on jesus-is-savior, & others; since I'm hindered from listing the addresses, you'll need to search the above terms.)
Lakesha Woodruff's comment on 2020-12-09 23:39:29:
The church has been telling lies to the people. No one is free from sin who lives in sin!!!! I repeat! No one is free from sin who lives in sin! The only thing that saves you from sin is not to do it!!! Keep the laws statutes and commandments and judgments of the Most High . Repent for the kingdom of God is at hand!
blessed's comment on 2015-08-11 05:27:54:
we must realize GOD defeated sin death and sickness when he sent his only begotten son OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST
William Davis's comment on 2014-11-10 17:08:31:
The wages of sin is death, notice it did not say "The wages of the sinner is death " so saved or unsaved the wages of sin is death
Steve j's comment on 2014-06-23 19:47:14:
Oh what a wonderful God to serve, to free us when we don 't deserve.
Doyle's comment on 2014-05-14 05:26:22:
I like the two extremes in this verse. Wages And death Gift and life, it says it all.
Dammilare's comment on 2014-02-15 10:04:09:
As it written for the wages of sin is death but GOD s free gift is enternal life in union with christ jesus our lord
george talley's comment on 2014-01-16 12:58:18:
When do u suppose the white horse appears in the apolcylips
BSP's comment on 2013-10-03 13:08:11:
This verse is a sad reality. No one has been able to escape being a slave to sin and this leads to us all receiving what sin pays and that is death. The only hope that we have is based on God's undeserved kindness that he willingly gave us in the sacrifice of his Son, Jesus Christ. When we really take time to meditate and think about what God has done for us, we should really be grateful and show our gratitude by the way we live our lives.
Kellen's comment on 2013-06-08 18:05:02:
That the lord need you to serve him an him only theres only one God and the son jesus our lord0and saviour that died for our sins and we should acknowledge him all the day long.
Angel Cheverez's comment on 2012-12-20 06:18:23:
Spelled wrong: For the wages of sin is death: but the gift of God is eternal life, through Jesus Christ our Lord. Thanks Jesus Christ.
malaki's comment on 2012-09-20 18:11:54:
Understandable and it is a clear massage\r\n\r\nPraise the Lord for his salvation
winston capilitan's comment on 2012-08-04 07:11:43:
sin of the wicked;punishable by the second death to hell according the Book of Revelation 21:8,therefore the key of salvation is the Acts 2:38,Gal.3:27,Luke 24:47-48,Acts 4:11-12,no other Name from heaven....mostly the people today no time for God because of wealth and big business..