“O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.”
King James Version (KJV)
Rev. Autrey's comment on 2014-06-12 10:41:22:
John 17, verse 25 says, O RIGHTEOUS FATHER, THE WORLD DOESN 'T KNOW YOU, BUT I DO, AND THESE DISCIPLES KNOW YOU SENT ME. What greater proof that the Father is not the way God talked to the people of old. If he were, Jesus could have never made this statement. What I sm saying is, Jesus is the way God spoke to us then, and the way he spaks to us now. That 's why Jesus can say to us that he is always with us, and always has been with us. What we must understand that God is a Trinity. That is, he has more than one personality. The Father is the way God makes his decisions about our salvation. The Holy Spirit is the way God inspires us to believe. But Jesus is the way God speaks to us. And furthermore, these personalities talk among themselves. This is what we see taking place in John 17. The mind of God is talking to itself, or among itself. This is what God has always done. This means that God was not lonely before he made us. He talkedto himsef. This is not a hard concept to understand. We, as limited humans, have a similiar capibility. We often talk to ourselves. So in the mind of God, we see Jesus talking to the Father. We don 't hear what the Father is saying because God never speaks to us by his personality the Father. It 's always as Jesus. This is how God speaks to us in the Book of John, "Hi, I d like to say good day to you, again. I am Jesus. The Father sends his greetings, too. " And when we ask Jesus to show us the Father, he says, "When you see me, you see the Father who sent me, " meaning the Father and Jesus are the same God. Then Jesus says, "By the way, The Holy Spirit says hi, too, " meaning that the Holy Spirit is the same God that the Father and Jesus are. I hope this will help you to know Jesus better!
Bob Lellis's comment on 2013-09-11 18:33:07:
Says it all; Stirs the spirit within me.