“For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.”
King James Version (KJV)
PASTOR CHARLES's comment on 2020-06-25 12:42:38:
Ephesians 2:8 says it is by grace we are saved through faith. it is not by faith alone, but by the grace of god and faith in his son that we receive the gift of salvation. by grace, we cannot earn grace. grace is given to us by a loving merciful god. it is freely given, we must only have faith in his word and in his son jesus christ. remember it is by grace through faith. not of works lest any man should boast. but he is telling us that if you truly believe you will also have works.
bob Hilt's comment on 2020-06-22 08:33:31:
Original sin is a Bible doctrine, not just Augustine.
Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man (Adam) sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Yet ALL does not mean ALL with one exception
Hebrews Chapter 4:14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast [our] profession.
15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as [we are, yet] without sin. WITHOUT SIN Jesus
16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
Adam's comment on 2020-06-22 08:06:20:
It's not a narrative, but literally what the Bible says is what most Christians believe. Romans 5:12, 1 John 1:8-10, Romans 3:23, Romans 7:18.
Why do you assume Christians have a narrative? Do you believe the Bible?
Alan's comment on 2020-06-22 07:11:34:
Original Sin... Original sin is an Augustine Christian doctrine that says that everyone is born sinful. This means that they are born with a built-in urge to do bad things and to disobey God.
Hasn't the West not changed the Christian narrative?
Mishael's comment on 2020-06-19 21:11:42:
Google original sin. Plenty of info there.
Chris's comment on 2020-06-19 16:01:59:
Alan, from the reading of Scripture, I would say that the early Church & the present Bible believing Church viewed Christ's salvation, its operation & its application in the very same way. However, there were those in that early Church, Gnostics included, that wanted to corrupt its meaning, to which Paul was pained to address that important issue. And specifically, some would have the keeping of the Law, circumcision & traditions as part & parcel of this new faith. Galatians chapter 2 gives a clear demonstration of Peter's hypocrisy in this matter, to which Paul had to take him 'over the coals', as what Peter was requiring of the Gentiles was in direct conflict with the meaning of the Gospel of Salvation, i.e. that the Cross has set us free from the bindings & consequences of the Law. If then, from your question, "the early Church did not view salvation as the western Church does" is your belief, then if you could provide some evidence of this please?
As well, I did not understand your other question: "where did the doctrine of original sin come from?" If it's not from the Bible (Rom 5:12-21; 1 Cor 15:21,22), then I don't know from where else.
Alan's comment on 2020-06-19 14:28:53:
Is it true, the early church did not view salvation as the western church does. If that is correct how can we say today faith alone(if that was never heard of in 20AD)
Also, where did the doctrine of original sin come from?
Chris's comment on 2020-04-14 01:35:44:
Bill...the Book of James has been in contention over the centuries, as an authority that faith alone does not give salvation. If that were the case, then Jesus' death on the cross is of no effect since one's accepting of it by faith alone secures salvation. If anything else is included, viz. good works for others, baptism, faithfulness in Church going or tithing, etc., then Christ's work & salvation are no longer of grace but of works. (Rom 11:5,6). However, James is correct, that the proof of real saving faith is seen in a life of good works. If a Christian says that he has faith, and have not works, his faith is dead (Js 2:14-17). Faith saves, but works follow only as evidence of grace.
Bill's comment on 2020-04-10 22:49:55:
This contradicts most Chrisrians belief that faith alone will lead to salvation. Faith without works is damnation.
Kitty's comment on 2015-02-13 04:48:35:
James 2:26 throws out the doctrine of Dichotomy! For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. KJV The body is born with a soul and is alive physically, but dead spiritually. You notice it didn 't mentioned the soul, it is too obvious! Spirit doesn 't dwell in dead bodies. They have to be alive and active to do good or evil. Then satan and demons would be eradicated if that we 're so. I therefore am persuaded of the Trichotomy doctrine.
Shay's comment on 2013-12-09 07:28:09:
When a person is dead, there is no animating force, or "spirit", in him, and he accomplishes nothing. Mere professed faith is just lifeless and useless as a dead body. If we have real faith, though, it will move us to godly action.