“There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.”
King James Version (KJV)
sally's comment on 2021-05-31 10:11:56:
Genesis 6:4
"There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."
mystery to me.
my theory is they were human and they had never sinned and they didn't live in the garden and they were created when adam was created. But eve was the only one created from adam's rib. we all come from adam and Eve.
stanjett's comment on 2020-12-04 22:03:37:
Giants are in the world today. Just look at some of the NBA basket ball players.
stanjett's comment on 2020-12-04 21:59:25:
very good. I agree. Most don't realize that angels had no sex organs, they can not produce anything. The sons of God are human men.
ja's comment on 2020-12-03 06:25:20:
yes, I understand what you mean when you say there is no biblical evidence to day they materialize but, we do entertain angels unaware. according to the book of Hebrews which means they do materialize and Abram also entertained them also as guest along with the Lord at his house. Lot took them in, yet he was not aware they were Angelic beings..... These fallen ones that we are talking about are not in service to The Holy Almighty anymore, therefore they do not do nor follow God's laws anymore. Firstly you have to remember like man, the fallen angels also lost there first estate. (meaning the Godly Character). they have become sinful, which mean they do hideous acts of sinfulness, they are the ones that teach man a lead man into all kinds of corrupt sinfulness...
THE INVISIBLE WORLD AROUND US's comment on 2020-12-03 03:07:31:
After the flood, the rebellious angels who went after Adams daughters; drowned.
Only 8 souls survived: Noah's family.
The evil ones had no bodies. Bodies Drowned. (There's a chapter where they rail on Satan for getting them killed.) With no bodies they became Demons.
In the New Testament, Jesus cast many out of afflicted peoples, body and soul. If you think..So What?... they can still get inside people who are not Born Again.
They wander until they find some kind of living thing to get inside. That statement is validated in Ephesians 6:11-12, Eph. 2:2, Isaiah 24:21-22 (some are imprisoned); some are in high places; Michael had to fight one so Gabriel could get a message to Daniel. Isaiah 14:16, satan isn't big & handsome. Ezekiel 28:23-19.
Satan has a will and he uses it to hurt people.
Often people blame God for the bad things that happen. If people today have idols in their lives (porn on the computer, gamble online, horoscopes, etc.) There are specialized demons that inhabit those things. We open the door they use to come inside our lives.
One even followed Paul around, hindering his meetings till he turned and cast it out of that woman! THEY ARE INVISIBLE!!! We never have drinks and smoke pot alone.
Maybe we should turn our focus away from nephalim in Genesis and lay our eyes on how to identify demonic activity in our lives, family, friends, mean neighbors, violent video games etc. ask yourself: what Fruit am I seeing?? Is someone depressed or suicidal? That's a spirit of death. Drugs, alcohol, pot=spirit of bondage. Learn these things. You could be praying to set clueless people FREE to follow Jesus.
Please think about this. Remember people who died way too early. Some of you commit to pray every day for Military who will be returning home soon, to find jobs miraculously, find new friends, be blessed for serving. Hold their lives Precious within your heart and spirit. Let's love Larger than just ourselves.
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elijah's comment on 2020-12-02 17:15:25:
1Jn.4:1-6
1Beloved, do not trust every spirit but test the spirits to see whether they belong to God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
2This is how you can know the Spirit of God: every spirit that acknowledges Jesus Christ come in the flesh belongs to God,
3and every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus*does not belong to God. This is the spirit of the antichrist that, as you heard, is to come, but in fact is already in the world.
4You belong to God, children, and you have conquered them, for the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world.
5They belong to the world; accordingly, their teaching belongs to the world, and the world listens to them.
6We belong to God, and anyone who knows God listens to us, while anyone who does not belong to God refuses to hear us. This is how we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of deceit.
elijah's comment on 2020-12-02 16:37:15:
Interesting view point,
I have never read in the bible where Angels can manifest in human form. Nor have I read that they could materialize. Angels are in spirit form and can appear as a human but not materialize, therefore do not have the ability to have sexual relations with humans.
Why does most still believe that the sons of God mentioned in 6:4 are angels and the offspring are Nephilim. And that the renowned are the Nephilim?
Can people view the scripture as the Nephilim are just present during the time the male humans(sons of God) and female humans(daughters of man) had intercource.
Their offspring are human, and the renowned men of old are in reference to famous people mentioned prior to Gen.6:4.: the sons of God?
I have not viewed any other theories that suggests this.
Good luck in your search.
Blessed are the peace keepers.
ja's comment on 2020-12-02 09:28:25:
I like your break down and elimination of the thought. However I think the last part is not spelling out to add up, for it to make full sense. I mean if they are God's son eg: Seth and Cain line eg: Enoch...( i am referring to the Enoch from Cain line here). How then would giants come about?. For we know these mighty men of re-noun speaks to giants also not just great men of mighty accomplishments, it speaks about warlocks, wizards men steeped in evil devices and powers. Think about this for a sec and let me know if it can ever be. The opposite of your own theory. The sons of God as the angels. Yes we are talking about the fallen ones, That 1/3 that the devil deceived to follow him. They are the nephilims that came and mingle with man kind and teach them charms, adornment of beauty, science, war, weapons, etc. Long story short.... Like Jesus being born of an spiritual birth not normal, Born of woman and the Spirit of God, Not the seed of man. The devil also wishes to corrupt the line of the Savior that he cause these corrupted Nephilims to mingle with man Kind. Jesus was born of the Spirit can it not be that the fallen ones can also cause woman born of un-natural procreation to bring forth un-natural off spring being giants in this case. The Idea was the same as what Balack wanted Balam to do back in Number to have man Kind Mingle in sinfulness to cause corruption. But the line of purity of Man kind was kept in Noah and his off springs over the year through the line of Seth. But even after the Flood we see the line was kept but the mind of man was corrupted and evil came forth in latter years by Ham line, Nimrod etc.....
We know angels cannot procreate, or marry but that is in Heaven because that is not the way there. however these Fallen ones do not obey such law. the fact that they mingle with Human can be the creation of un natural life. Remember how things are now spiritual things and physical things mixed without God is detrimental and evil.
Elijah Zmuda's comment on 2020-12-01 18:19:59:
MYSTERY OF THE NEPHILIM REVEALED
Gen.6:4
Scriptural Facts:
1. Heavenly or Fallen Angels can not procreate according to biblical scripture. (Matt. 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34)
2. There is no evidence from the dead sea scrolls on gen.6:4 that the Nephilim were the offspring of the sons of God and daughters of men.
3. The Nephilim were present before and after the sons of God and daughters of man had intercourse.
4. Sons of God could mean holy Angels or holy men according to scripture. (Job 1:6; 2:1), (Psalm 82:6, Hos. 1:10; John 10:34-38, Matt. 5:9; Luke 3:38; Rom. 8:14)
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Knowing these facts; we can rule out that the sons of God are angels in gen 6:4 because they procreate.
Therefore, they must be men that had God's favor(Seth's lineage). The daughters of man would be women without God's favor(Cain's lineage). Their offspring would be human.
What are these Nephilim?
Well, they can't be the offspring of the sons of God and daughters of man according to the facts stated above; because the nephilim were present when the sons of God lusted the daughters of man. How could the Nephilim be present when the sons of God first had sex with the daughters on man? Wouldn't they need to be born first?
The interpretation from a root word naphil of Nephilim means fallen ones.
Look at the similarities of seraphim and cherubim. Now look at Nephilim.
Seraphim and Cherubim are Holy Angels.
Doesn't it make since that the Nephilim would be Fallen angels?
The men of renown is another way of referring to famous biblical characters like Adam, seth, Enoch, and Noah.
How did the spies from moses know what the Nephilim looked like or were?
Stories told from generation to generation about them being frightening.
When the spies saw giant men, they were frightened and thought they were the Nephilim.
The Nephilim most likely tempted the sons of God and daughters of man.
The Nephilim were fallen Angels not human. Goliath was a man.
Dan's comment on 2020-11-04 09:57:16:
They recently, 2018, found one of thiese giants that had wiped out a platoon of Texas Rangers, I believe, and sent another platoon in to find out what happened, this was in Afghanistan...his bones were so strong that standard longrifles could not penetrate to get into the vital organs to kill it...it was arilifted back to an army base there and never seen again...the worlds way of covering up anything that leads to Scripture and there being a God of creation...It is very difficult in today's world to try and find real truth about anything...I was born and raised Catholic, read the KJV Bible at 23, found out many lies the Catholic church printed and the same with the Protestant church...that is why I depend on the baptism in the Holy Spirit at age 23 to test truth...Bottom Line...Christ is the only way to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob...confession of Him and believing that God raised Him is salvation...living the cleanest life we can live, but knowing our sins, all our sins can be forgiven just by asking and trusting in the healing power of His Blood...
Ronald Parent's comment on 2020-09-01 16:06:35:
Christ's references in the the new testament states like angels " in heaven". Genesis 6 & Enoch refers to fallen angels on the earth, having left their first estate. Enoch refers to them as watchers that came to earth at Mt. Hermon. The angels in heaven are submissive and follow Gods instruction, unlike those that rebelled by leaving their first estate.
Craig Moss's comment on 2020-08-18 09:53:36:
Good call Bruce!
Craig Moss's comment on 2020-08-18 09:52:10:
Elijah, you are correct.
Will's comment on 2020-08-18 00:49:49:
19 In the multitude of words there wanteth not sin: but he that refraineth his lips is wise.
Mishael to Adam's comment on 2020-08-16 17:10:52:
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stanjett's comment on 2020-08-15 23:16:30:
How can angels have sex, if they are neither male or female and neither marry or is given in marriage. Elijah above has it right.
Elijah's comment on 2020-07-29 13:17:43:
The Giants mentioned in the KJV are the Nephilium. Nehpilium's root word is nefilim.
The Hebrew wordnefilimis sometimes directly translated as "giants" or taken to mean "the fallen ones" (from the Hebrewnaphal, "to fall").
Goliath was a large man but not a descendant of the Nephilium. Other scriptures point out that rebellious humans or Angels have fallen from God's Grace. Even though there were giant humans throughout time, does not mean that they descendants from nephilium.
Fallen Angels are considered to be giants in mankinds eyes as illistrated throughout the bible.
The Israelites that reported back after spying upon the Palestinians saw large men not nephilium!
The Nephilium must have been Demons that were present while the sons of God lusted the daughters of man. Perhaps, they had influenced the sons of God to lust the women and rebel against God in this manor. No where in scripture does it state that the Nephilium were they offspring of the sons of God and daughters of men. It only gives reference to them being present at that time and afterwards.
Elijah's comment on 2020-07-29 11:02:23:
Sons of God are mentioned in the bible many times. The Righteous Angels are referred to as Sons of God at the time of their creation. Job also describes them as sons of God. Christians are referred to as Sons of God.
So, the title has to do with righteousness. Jesus was called "Son of Man" meaning human, and Called " son of God" meaning divine nature(without sin); God.
Fallen Angels lost their title when they rebelled with Satan; their new father or leader.
Demons can not be the Sons of God. The sons of God mentioned in gen. 6:4 couldn't be holy Angels because their is no mention of Angels falling away after the initial falling away or rebellion. Therefore, they must be the humans who honor God in that time. Blessed are the righteous and peace makers, for they shall be called sons of God.
Elijah Zmuda's comment on 2020-07-29 01:51:09:
Demons cannot take on flesh -- there is nowhere in the Bible that says that they can. Of course we know that angels, both heavenly and fallen, can appear in human form, but they remain spirit beings only. God also said let every creature produce after it's own kind. This means that a human can not mate with a goat and have a pan as an offspring(Mythology). The same applies for Demons, they can not have offspring with humans. Besides, if God wanted more angels he would create them himself. Also, according to Jesus, Angels do not marry in heaven, that means they do not have offspring or engage in sexual relations to reproduce. If Angels dont marry while in heaven, how could they when kicked from heaven.
Furthermore, Sons of God are referred to as humans over and over again throughout the bible. There is a scripture of sons of God referring to the holy Angels in Ezekiel. Of course, you all know that a holy angel will not disobey(sin) God.
My previous interpretation of scriputre about Gen. 6:4 is still most logical and theological.
Adam's comment on 2020-07-29 00:09:09:
Hello. I believe the Nephillum were the children of angels (sons of men) and humans having sexual relations. Genesis 6:1-4.